Me - You know what? Lets do it. Lets stop all vaccinations. Lets go back to like 1900 and let the chips fall where they may. Lets ignore all the research and millions of doses of vaccines and all the data collected over the decades. FAFO I say.
We will have a decade or so of people with survivor bias riding on the back of herd immunity saying, "Ha! I told you so!" Then the vaccine preventable diseases will come back slowly but gain ground in the second decade. And then we will be in full blown 1900's like times where our life expectancy will drop significantly due to the increase in these diseases .
And what is the risk to us today? Nothing really. Most of us are vaccinated. Right? It will take at least a decade or two for this to happen. Probably more because there will be a lot of people still vaccinating, right? So.... We have no risk today. Our grandchildren though..... Or great grandchildren.
It will be fascinating thought to experience.
Person #1----- Kobbled Krafts lmfaooooo you're so igornant I don't even know where to begin.
Please research before showcasing how igornant you are 🤣🙄🤦🏼♀️
Me --- to person #1------Ah yes. You must be one of those that hides in the arrogance of all the others keeping you safe. Or you hide behind the arrogance of already being vaccinated. Either way.... I think some one is projecting.
Go ahead... Tell me how much "research" you have done. I can't wait to see all the Google degrees and 10 hour "Dr" degreed homeopaths, and chiropractors that are experts in immunology and virology and infectious diseases. I bet you will even cite Doctors that have been denied certification and licenses as being the gospel because it just feeds your bias.
And you say I am showcasing my ignorance?
Easy to say when there is no risk for you, huh?
Person #2-----Kobbled Krafts Let's go forward to the future where vaccines are optional. If you want one, you can get one. The research has been ignored for decades, and the data deliberately buried. The data clearly shows a dose response relationship between increasing vaccine doses and increasing endpoint chronic and fatal diseases. The fully vaccinated have a LOWER life expectancy than the completely unvaccinated. Let's go forward into the future where our grand children and great grandchildren are healthy, and are not constantly sick, and don't have chronic inflammation in their brains. And since half of vaccines don't stop infection or transmission, the risk to us isn't nothing, just as the risk of those flu shots and covid shots weren't nothing. There is no herd immunity when a vaccine doesn't prevent infection or transmission. The vaccine preventable diseases are already back, or in some cases never left. You just don't test for them in asymptomatic carriers of disease.
Me----to person #2-----All of your claims are flat out untrue and can be verified to the contrary by many studies for each claim. I am not sure where your sources are but I can imagine they are limited in number, full of social media enhanced propagation. I am also guessing that since it definitely feeds your bias that you have no interest in proof counter claims or the non-existent proof of your claims.
The thing is, it can be difficult to actually find a source for your claims that is actually reputable, sound, backed by other people in the same field of study and has repeated results. On the other hand, it's very easy to find research and studies to the contrary. Take for instance your claim that unvaccinated people live longer ... That is demonstratively easy to counter claim. People are living longer (by like double the years) since vaccines have been used.
Ah well, it's like I said. In order for us to truly understand how modern medicine has improved our lives .... In this case vaccines...... We will just have to keep going the way we are and wait a few decades. We are not really at any risk so it's easy to be arrogant at flat out believe the opposite of the already well known benefits of vaccination.
Person #2---- Kobbled Krafts It's called a base rate analysis. People are living longer since vaccines were introduced. Yes. HOWEVER, the unvaccinated live LONGER than the vaccinated do, regardless of when the data is collected. The hundreds of millions of data points are in agreement about the all cause mortality rates increasing with every vaccine dose above the general base rates of society. Even when the base rates change.
Everything you accused me of, you did yourself. That self-selection of social media propaganda, is what you do, not me. Cherry picking which experts to listen to, is what you do, not me. Ignoring inconvenient data which doesn't fit the myth that vaccines saved millions of lives, is what you do, not me. Science is data, not consensus, and not based on which expert is lying to you this time.
Me--- to person #2----- vaccines have saved millions of lives. I mean just take measles for example. Before the latest outbreaks in the last two or three years how many people actually died from measles say two decades before 2020? What about the number of people that have been hospitalized or had brain damage or been blind or any of the other complications of measles? And that's just measles.....
If you're saying that vaccines have not saved lives and and help people to live longer than you're just in denial.
Look at how many complications and hospitalizations come from the other ones. Look at pertussis or look at chicken pox or look at hepatitis or look at any of the vaccines. Hell smallpox has been eradicated from the earth because of vaccines and think about how many deaths were saved just from that!
And that's not cherry picking or using social media.
And I truly would like to see the source you have for the claim that unvaccinated people have longer lives than vaccinated people even with the base difference. Cuz that would be interesting to see how they came to that conclusion
Person #4------ Kobbled Krafts CDC and WHO and every scientist across the world have ALL AGREED that the unvaccinated are , on a whole, healthier than the vaccinated. There's a reason that over 60% of our kids are prescribed at LEAST 1 , LIFELONG mood/ mind altering drug before they're even out of elementary school.
Me ----- to person #3------ Bull. Where is your proof of that? Your just making that up or its something pulled it out of their ass. The CDC, WHO, AND every scientist do not say unvaccinated are healthier. That is straight up lying and making shit up.
And don't you think the reason so many kids have mood medicine is because of the decay of the nuclear family, poverty, and social media? Ah.... But then those things don't fit your narrative.
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